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My Suzhou Trip: Left Feeling So Disappointed...

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    Orville Conroy
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    Hey everyone, I recommend visiting Beisi Pagoda, Yi Garden, Pingjiang Road, and the East Taihu Lake Resort area – fewer crowds and beautiful scenery. Qili Shantang has great night views, but it's way too commercialized and crowded. I'd definitely steer clear of Guanqian Street and the Humble Administrator's Garden. Next time I'm in Suzhou, I'll do more research to find some lesser-known gardens and spots. Locals, feel free to recommend some places!

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      Darren Sawayn
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      Honestly, Guanqian Street isn't really worth visiting unless you have childhood memories there. It's just like any other pedestrian street you can find anywhere. Now that there are so many modern shopping malls, these kinds of places (like Shilu) have lost their appeal. Most of the shops have changed, though there's one bookstore called 'Slow Bookstore' that I quite enjoy. If you want to shop, go for places like Suzhou Center or Tianjie. Eslite Spectrum is also great for browsing, and next to it is the older high-end mall, Jiuguang (though Jiuguang isn't great for shopping)... I feel like the most interesting parts of Suzhou are the hidden gems in the old alleyways and traditional shops in the old town. There's a Suzhou dialect channel on Bilibili called 'Chang Yuan Wu Jian' (Long Time No See); you can check out some of the old Suzhou customs and joys mentioned there.

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        Morris Schneider
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        I've got one thing to say: you expect a bit too much from strangers.

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          Jermaine Satterfield
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          Maybe it's because I've always found people from the south to be easygoing.

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            Lorraine Rau
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            Another thing is the coldness of people in Suzhou, which I felt even more keenly than in Shanghai. I was at Qili Shantang when an auntie selling lanterns called me over. I thought I'd support her business and bought one. Then, a second auntie rushed up asking me to buy a fan. After I bought the fan and walked away, a third one chased after me trying to sell flowers, then a fourth... They saw I was an easy target and kept pestering just me. Every tourist spot in Suzhou has vendors like this who resort to aggressive sales tactics. I understand needing to do business, but getting a rude look after refusing is really unpleasant... I haven't experienced this kind of atmosphere elsewhere.

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              Kendra Howe
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              Which city are you from? I was taught by my parents since I was young not to randomly accept things from others without their permission. What you see as 'coldness' seems like good manners to me. Except for the person who didn't say thank you after taking it; normally, one should say thank you. Or perhaps they were just too surprised by your gesture to react.

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                Ms. Wanda Kilback
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                The gardens are so crowded nowadays. It's frustrating to see so many people. When I was a kid, the gardens were practically empty, incredibly beautiful, and you could even climb and explore the rockeries. So my earliest impression of the gardens was that they were both beautiful and fun. Now, don't even get me started – the moment I see a long queue at the entrance, I just turn around and leave.

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                  Mr. Jody Bednar
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                  Help! Where are the fun rockeries? [facepalm] I really need to find some.

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                    Mr. Jody Bednar
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                    Thanks for the reply.

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                      Byron Larkin
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                      A Suzhou local here to tell you: the things you encountered do happen, but the people involved were likely not locals. Suzhou is a tourist city, and it's packed this season, which affects how you see the city. Suzhou is beautiful; you need to stay for a few days, slow down, wander into the old town, have breakfast, listen to Pingtan storytelling, and stroll through the small alleys. Many gardens in Suzhou don't require an entrance fee and are beautiful with fewer people. Hope you can come back to Suzhou for a leisurely visit.

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                        Robyn Reilly
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                        Thank you, I absolutely love Suzhou Pingtan. I'll leave some things to look forward to and enjoy next time.

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                          Tanya Bogisich IV
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                          When I first came to Suzhou, I felt that people here were quite fierce. When I complained to my Suzhou friend, I said, 'The cleaning lady was so fierce.' My friend replied, 'She's not from Suzhou.' I said, 'The auntie selling things was also fierce.' Friend: 'She's not from Suzhou.' I said, 'The taxi driver was also fierce, he kept scolding us when the GPS led us wrong.' Friend: 'He's not from Suzhou.' Me: '???'. Friend: 'People from Xiangcheng are Xiangcheng people, people from Wuzhong are Wuzhong people. Some from Gusu are old Suzhou natives. They're not all 'Suzhou people'.'

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                            Pat Pagac
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                            You'll get used to it. Don't be a pushover, or people will walk all over you. You have to be tough... Maybe that's why everyone seems hard to deal with. If you're too nice, people take advantage.

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                              Katrina Sporer
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                              People from Jiangsu have always been rather indifferent; they're quite united on this point, and they're not ashamed of it, but rather proud.

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                                Dr. Lance Glover
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                                I've definitely felt this. They can be extremely snobbish. You have to dress well to get good service.

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                                  Iris Marquardt
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                                  When visiting the gardens, it's a good idea to hire a guide to understand the stories behind them and the clever design details; it makes it much more interesting.

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                                    April Corwin
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                                    I didn't specifically look for one because time was limited. I'll try next time.

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                                      Jo Douglas
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                                      Your planning is a bit off. Just a friendly reminder, from Times Square, it's only 2 subway stops to the Gate to the East. You can also walk there along the Jinji Lake trail, or even take a boat.

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                                        Barry Kuphal
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                                        I walked the Jinji Lake trail; it seemed like there were no boats at night.

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